Comments on: the sense of value is the key to the Torch thing http://www.ifgogo.com/67/the-sense-of-value-is-the-key-to-the-torch-thing/ Chinese in English Sat, 06 Sep 2008 02:12:59 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: hidecloud http://www.ifgogo.com/67/the-sense-of-value-is-the-key-to-the-torch-thing/#comment-716 hidecloud Sat, 19 Apr 2008 02:10:04 +0000 http://www.ifgogo.com/67/the-sense-of-value-is-the-key-to-the-torch-thing/#comment-716 i got an idea just now. If these boring people could read this post,how would they think of us?A traitor or something?lol~~~ i got an idea just now.
If these boring people could read this post,how would they think of us?A traitor or something?lol~~~

]]> By: Kai http://www.ifgogo.com/67/the-sense-of-value-is-the-key-to-the-torch-thing/#comment-715 Kai Fri, 18 Apr 2008 18:00:00 +0000 http://www.ifgogo.com/67/the-sense-of-value-is-the-key-to-the-torch-thing/#comment-715 It requires a lot of boredom and overwhelming ignorance to create something like this: http://vhead.blog.sina.com.cn/player/outer_player.swf?auto=1&vid=12417440&uid=1401913474 How disappointing. It requires a lot of boredom and overwhelming ignorance to create something like this: http://vhead.blog.sina.com.cn/player/outer_player.swf?auto=1&vid=12417440&uid=1401913474

How disappointing.

]]> By: hidecloud http://www.ifgogo.com/67/the-sense-of-value-is-the-key-to-the-torch-thing/#comment-714 hidecloud Fri, 18 Apr 2008 17:56:28 +0000 http://www.ifgogo.com/67/the-sense-of-value-is-the-key-to-the-torch-thing/#comment-714 Yah,you may be right. Should fame be better? BTW,i seriously agree with u about their 'boring'. Yah,you may be right.
Should fame be better?
BTW,i seriously agree with u about their 'boring'.

]]> By: ewine http://www.ifgogo.com/67/the-sense-of-value-is-the-key-to-the-torch-thing/#comment-713 ewine Fri, 18 Apr 2008 17:50:15 +0000 http://www.ifgogo.com/67/the-sense-of-value-is-the-key-to-the-torch-thing/#comment-713 In my opinion, "honor" is related to sth solemn and brave, we prefer to say "fight for our honor", but not "fight for face". Actually, as we know, there is no word in English which can be suited for "面子" in Chinese. And the culture of "面子" is of long standing and complex. Maybe "face" is the most appropriate word we can find in current English. I think, whether or no, using "honor" is a kind of praise to these guys, which is far from what you wanna tell us. what about you? In my opinion, "honor" is related to sth solemn and brave, we prefer to say "fight for our honor", but not "fight for face".

Actually, as we know, there is no word in English which can be suited for "面子" in Chinese. And the culture of "面子" is of long standing and complex. Maybe "face" is the most appropriate word we can find in current English.

I think, whether or no, using "honor" is a kind of praise to these guys, which is far from what you wanna tell us. what about you?

]]> By: hidecloud http://www.ifgogo.com/67/the-sense-of-value-is-the-key-to-the-torch-thing/#comment-712 hidecloud Fri, 18 Apr 2008 17:22:21 +0000 http://www.ifgogo.com/67/the-sense-of-value-is-the-key-to-the-torch-thing/#comment-712 i wanted to use the word 'face'.But i'm not sure whether it is a Chinglish word or not.lol~~ i wanted to use the word 'face'.But i'm not sure whether it is a Chinglish word or not.lol~~

]]> By: ewine http://www.ifgogo.com/67/the-sense-of-value-is-the-key-to-the-torch-thing/#comment-711 ewine Fri, 18 Apr 2008 16:59:51 +0000 http://www.ifgogo.com/67/the-sense-of-value-is-the-key-to-the-torch-thing/#comment-711 They don’t care about truth;they don’t like to think.What they only care about is honor、honor、honor. Now, few of people care about truth even common sense. What I disagree is that, maybe what they care about is not honor, but "face"(面子). In fact, I think they just take their "patriotic" actions as some kinds of entertainment, because these boring and ignorant guys have nothing to involve in their life. They said they would reject carrefour, as they inveighed Furong JJ in the BBS. Woo, you overrated those guys. They have no objective or reason, all based of their emptiness, or "erbility"... They don’t care about truth;they don’t like to think.What they only care about is honor、honor、honor.

Now, few of people care about truth even common sense. What I disagree is that, maybe what they care about is not honor, but "face"(面子).

In fact, I think they just take their "patriotic" actions as some kinds of entertainment, because these boring and ignorant guys have nothing to involve in their life. They said they would reject carrefour, as they inveighed Furong JJ in the BBS.

Woo, you overrated those guys.

They have no objective or reason, all based of their emptiness, or "erbility"...

]]> By: Kai http://www.ifgogo.com/67/the-sense-of-value-is-the-key-to-the-torch-thing/#comment-701 Kai Thu, 17 Apr 2008 05:37:11 +0000 http://www.ifgogo.com/67/the-sense-of-value-is-the-key-to-the-torch-thing/#comment-701 Why was my previous comment marked as spam? Anyway, <a href="http://news.imagethief.com/blogs/china/archive/2008/04/16/jack-cafferty-brews-more-trouble-for-cnn-in-china.aspx" rel="nofollow">Imagethief has a good post discussing the misunderstandings between the Chinese and the Western media</a>. Why was my previous comment marked as spam?

Anyway, Imagethief has a good post discussing the misunderstandings between the Chinese and the Western media.

]]> By: Kai http://www.ifgogo.com/67/the-sense-of-value-is-the-key-to-the-torch-thing/#comment-700 Kai Thu, 17 Apr 2008 05:21:56 +0000 http://www.ifgogo.com/67/the-sense-of-value-is-the-key-to-the-torch-thing/#comment-700 The CCP government IS permitting the online witchunts and mob violence (which has gone offline as well), just like when the government permitted the anti-Japanese protests and violence years ago. The government does so because it solidifies their influence and control of the domestic population. As long as the Chinese people have an outside enemy, they will be less critical of their government. It is an old strategy. Anyway, <a href="http://news.imagethief.com/blogs/china/archive/2008/04/16/jack-cafferty-brews-more-trouble-for-cnn-in-china.aspx">Imagethief has a good blog post that nicely summarizes some important issues regarding Western media and its relationship with Chinese people</a>. A big key Chinese misunderstanding of the West is that the role of media is very different in the West compared to in China. The CCP government IS permitting the online witchunts and mob violence (which has gone offline as well), just like when the government permitted the anti-Japanese protests and violence years ago. The government does so because it solidifies their influence and control of the domestic population. As long as the Chinese people have an outside enemy, they will be less critical of their government. It is an old strategy.

Anyway, Imagethief has a good blog post that nicely summarizes some important issues regarding Western media and its relationship with Chinese people. A big key Chinese misunderstanding of the West is that the role of media is very different in the West compared to in China.

]]> By: Aw Guo http://www.ifgogo.com/67/the-sense-of-value-is-the-key-to-the-torch-thing/#comment-699 Aw Guo Thu, 17 Apr 2008 02:32:51 +0000 http://www.ifgogo.com/67/the-sense-of-value-is-the-key-to-the-torch-thing/#comment-699 ...and even most Chinese people, are not pursuing democracy and they do support the suppression of many freedoms. Just look at the nationalistic rage that many Chinese netizens are showing right now... However, I'm glad to see that's just netizens. The gov is not yet doing so or "permitting" so. That's why I said that some (Chinese) cannot play government. Because they are so out of control, they are so uneducated (to kill, to jail) ...and even most Chinese people, are not pursuing democracy and they do support the suppression of many freedoms. Just look at the nationalistic rage that many Chinese netizens are showing right now...

However, I'm glad to see that's just netizens. The gov is not yet doing so or "permitting" so. That's why I said that some (Chinese) cannot play government. Because they are so out of control, they are so uneducated (to kill, to jail)

]]> By: Aw Guo http://www.ifgogo.com/67/the-sense-of-value-is-the-key-to-the-torch-thing/#comment-698 Aw Guo Thu, 17 Apr 2008 02:30:40 +0000 http://www.ifgogo.com/67/the-sense-of-value-is-the-key-to-the-torch-thing/#comment-698 Communications really really will work. Especially that we all just want everything to get better. sense of value, or "ideology"? Communications really really will work. Especially that we all just want everything to get better.
sense of value, or "ideology"?

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